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Windows vs the Mac
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j***@optonline.net
2004-04-16 17:28:28 UTC
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[Windows] [Macintosh]

 MICROSOFT WINDOWS- Despite what they tell us Microsoft Windows, it is
not a true Windows system, not as long as it has DOS buried within
Windows.

The problem with mixing Windows and DOS.
No doubt DOS is one the best and fastest operating system out there.
Not one bloated with a Windows system comes close to it (Apple or
Microsoft) .
BUT DOS WAS DESIGNED TO DO ONE THING A TIME. Windows and DOS do not
mix very well and never will.

Microsoft first put Windows on top of DOS. Then they starting burying
DOS with every Windows Version starting with Windows 95, naturally it
makes it look more the Macintosh. Microsoft has buried DOS (or a form
of DOS) further in the latest in version. Not much improvement in
Windows 95,98,ME or XP. Windows XP (Microsoft says DOS is gone ) still
has the feel that it had in Windows 3.1 (clunky). It is like using
your keyboard with gloves on. The manufactures make some good
machines, but one has to put up with the weird operating system (a
Windows System combined with DOS).

Microsoft keeps trying to copy the Mac. Windows will just not work
with DOS. Microsoft keeps putting code of top of code to hide the DOS.
But Microsoft needs to come up with a new Windows Operating System.

But we have another problem with the standard system, there is all
that software out there. It will cost money, the public pays the big
bucks. What good is a standard, if your existing programs will not run
on it? So we are stuck with DOS, as we are with the an inferior
keyboard which is not as efficient as the DOVARK. We are stuck with
the standard.

Windows was put together something like that original typewriter
keyboard below. On the original typewriter the keys did not work right
with fast typing and they arranged the keys to slow the typist down.
Evidently Microsoft had to put that something out there fast to keep
up with the competition (Macintosh and IBM OS), but Microsoft have to
contend with all that DOS software out there, and Microsoft jury
rigged Windows sitting on top of DOS. The standard was born. Microsoft
called it Windows. The correct term is DOS/Windows.

APPLE/MACINTOSH- Anyone who has used both machines (actually used
them) knows what machine has the more efficient operating system.

Business always drives the whole thing. And Wintel makes cheaper
machines than Macintosh. Plus in the business world- rarely is more
than one program needed. Majority of Newspapers and Graphics Artists
who need to do many things on a computer- use the Macintosh. Putting
out Newspapers and those into Graphics using a Windows machine is very
time consuming. I was in the Ship Design business and we only used one
program (Auto-Cad). That is typical in business. Why would one spend
money on a Macintosh when you could get a cheap Windows machine to use
for only only program? However Newspaper and Graphics are losing time
(man hours) on any Windows machine. Microsoft has a great programs in
Word, but if you are a Writer you need the Mac, just too time
consuming on a Windows machine. The handling of all those files needed
is time consuming on a Windows. The same thing for surfing the net. It
is time consuming on a Windows machine. Have you ever tried taking a
Screenshot on the Net on the Windows machine versus the Mac? Or
downloading a large number of files from a website, or loading files,
etc.etc.

When it comes to your home computer, any literate computer person
would buy a Macintosh. Of course we have very few people who are
computer literate (even in 2004) and they use the Windows at work and
they will buy a Windows machine for their home. The cycle continues.
These people who have been using the same program for 10 years or more
on the same machine at work are not very computer literate. It is a
simple as that.

Microsoft writes some very good programs but they have to run them on
a Windows system that is based on DOS. Gates put DOS on top of Windows
and now we have to live with it, because it is the standard. Much like
we have to work with a standard keyboard that is not as efficient as
Dvoark.
THE HISTORY-How the Computer Standard became the Standard (how I
understand it)

1. About 1973-XEROX (at their lab) had it all figured out and XEROX in
about 1983 gave it away for some stock in Apple. In exchange Apple was
allowed to visit XEROX's facility for a few weeks. Apple used the
XEROX ideas to develop the Apple Lisa and Macintosh.

2. About 1980-Apple had about 50% of the market. Microsoft gets the
rights to sell DOS to the giant IBM (Microsoft did not develop it).
Microsoft later got exclusive rights for DOS for about $100,000 (DOS
back then was called that "Quick and Dirty Operating System)". Of
course Microsoft left a legal loophole when they leased it to IBM,
Microsoft could lease DOS to others, and naturally DOS would became
the standard through IBM. No one at IBM expected that they would have
competitors in personal computers, evidently IBM lawyers left loophole
go. IBM came out with their first $3000 PC in 1981. Apple had been
selling PC's since 1976. But Apple was a computer company and they
still are. Gates knew the big money was in a standard operating
system. Business went to Microsoft (better suited the bottom line) and
Microsoft had computer illiteracy going for him and still does. Apple
blew it.

3. About 1983-Apple took the XEROX ideas and came up with the Lisa
(the first PC with a GUI and mouse and it was a flop) and the first
Macintosh in 1985. The ancestors of all computers today go back to the
Apple Lisa.

4. About 1984-Compaq using reverse engineering came up with the first
IBM clone thereby insuring the DOS standards survival competing with
IBM. That reverse engineering is another story. But is a legal. Of
course one party sues the other. Microsoft resolved its case with
Apple a few years ago when Apple was down, because of its Clones.
Apple was too a small market to go into the Clone business at that
late date. Microsoft brought some stock and continued to make software
for the Apple and Apple forgave Microsoft .

5.1985-Bill Gates had also visited XEROX and Microsoft worked to give
MS-DOS a Windows system. XEROX wanted stock from Apple, I did not know
what XEROX wanted from Microsoft? Microsoft basically used the XEROX &
Macintosh ideas and came up with a crude Windows system and did not
get rid of DOS (after all the DOS software was the standard), There
was too much software out there to get rid of DOS. Yet Microsoft
needed that Windows system to keep up with the competition. Gates was
selling DOS for $120 a copy in 1987. Apple and Digital Research going
back to 1979 were also involved in DOS. Digital Research was called DR
DOS.

Microsoft's crude system was something like the original typewriter
changing the keys to slow things down to fix the problem. Thus DOS and
Windows were joined to fix the problem. It made a bastard of DOS and a
crude form of Windows. Some say that Microsoft also did some reverse
engineering relative to the IBM OS. I did not know if this a fact?
Although IBM Windows was much better system than Microsoft Windows. By
1990 there were 10 million copies of Windows 3.0 sold. With Windows
3.1 over 3 million copies were sold in the first two months.

6. Of course there were lawsuits after lawsuits, XEROX sued Apple and
Apple sued Microsoft. Microsoft also left a contract loophole in legal
contracts with Apple. Microsoft out smarted both IBM and Apple. Giant
IBM and Apple were both amateurs compared to Gates.

7.1995/98/99- Microsoft keeps trying to copy to Apple, burying DOS
even further in each revision of the DOS based Windows. About Windows
ME Microsoft had even gotten rid of the term directory, they were now
called folders, like the Mac. DOS was never mentioned again as though
it did not exist,

8. 2001-Apple does an about face after System 9 and revises the System
that started it all. (Apple is now has about 5% of the market) Except
for Newspapers and Graphics business had no use for the Macintosh,
they stuck with DOS and DOS based windows. Business was easy, usually
that one program to run and they were not going to pay the high price
of the Mac. The Macintosh acted like a monopoly in its early years.
Apple did have the schools once but DOS/Windows is eroding that lead
also.

9. 2004-Windows mixed with DOS (or a form of DOS) is still the
standard today, Nothing has changed, Same with the Dvorak keyboard. We
still use that keyboard that was set up to slow down the typist. And
we still have DOS where it does not belong.

DVORAK KEYBOARD* - The more efficient Dvorak Keyboard below:



http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/history.html Go to this site. John
Shipman giving an account of DVORAK History "Quote

In about 1930, Dr. August Dvorak, undertook a study of efficiency in
the office. He almost immediately discovered the awful history of the
QWERTY keyboard.

Christopher Sholes, the inventor of the typewriter (ca. 1870),
invented the QWERTY layout by trial and error. In his early
typewriter, the type slugs hit the bottom of the platen and then fell
back down. Because Sholes didn't think of putting return springs on
the type slugs, he had trouble getting any speed out of the machine
because the type slugs would jam. So he moved the characters around in
a way that made the most common combinations hard to type, in order to
SLOW THE TYPIST DOWN so that jams would not occur.

In practical terms, then, Sholes anti-engineered the keyboard. Dvorak
found that the QWERTY arrangement is actually considerably worse than
a random arrangement! "Unquote"
Reminds one of Microsoft putting WINDOWS on top of DOS to keep the
standard. One might say that Microsoft anti-engineered Windows by
keeping DOS.
--- (Typing test in the 1930's) You could type (165 words a minute) on
the right on the Dvorak keyboard and on the left (131 words minute) on
the standard keyboard we all use today.

http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/procon.html

At this site "Dvorak Pros and Cons" above "Quote" If you must, you can
go back to QWERTY within a fairly short time (possibly days, probably
hours, maybe seconds), but you will curse every keystroke you have to
type in QWERTY, once you've tried Dvorak! "UnQuote"

One could say the same thing about the Windows System over the use of
Apple System. That is my experience. When I use the Windows machine it
is like using a keyboard with gloves.


CONCLUSION-It is said that 90% of the world buy Window Machines (that
so called standard) and that 90% cannot be wrong. I say that 90% of
the people are mistaken and it all goes back to how that computer
standard was created, and the computer literacy of the average
individual. Microsoft made their fortune on illiteracy? Business sets
the average person up using the Windows format and they stuck with for
life. Talk about these IBM clones (they were called clones at one
time) it appears Microsoft with the help of business, Clones the
computer population.

When something looks so obvious- one has to be a fool or literacy
comes in to play. Could 90% of the world be lacking computer
knowledge? It is possible? About 90% of the world thought there was no
harm in smoking at one time (even medical doctors "Remember-More
Doctors smoke Camels than other cigarette". When it comes to the
Dvorak keyboard probably 97% does not know that it even exists.

One last note-   I was employed at a large engineering firm several
years ago, they had a particular form they had been using for 15 years
relative to material. Originally it was used for ordering material and
had extensive information to be filled in. About six months after this
form was initiated, the system was changed relative to the ordering of
the material, and the form now was just a tracking form, so numbers
were not duplicated, and the part number was all that was required on
the form. Yet for almost 15 years the designers had been blindly
filling out this form (with all that useless information) and no one
(no one) even knew why they were doing it, what the form was for, or
what its function was (true story). And engineers are supposed to be
one of the more intelligent members of our species. That 90% could be
wrong.

When you look hard at history of Microsoft you see no invocation. It
appears Microsoft goes in a market late and crowds out everyone else
out. It turns a good product to be sure (with exception DOS/Windows
OS, that is hopeless) but it comes in after someone has developed it.
Whether be Word Processing or a Net Browser or whatever?

Microsoft says that Windows 2000 or Windows XP are based on a totally
new operating called Windows NT. I used them both, including NT
(although more stable) they are still clunky (still like wearing
gloves using a keyboard). New operating system? Or more code on top of
code? Does DOS still live (or some form of it) or is DOS finally dead
in the Windows XP. Of course Microsoft told us they had gotten rid of
DOS in Windows ME?

An interesting quote by Bill Gates when he was writing software for
Apple -from a brochure about 1983. Also see the Bill Gates Video,
relative to the Mac, picking the standard about 1983.

Microsoft is now about 90% of the market, Apple is about 5%. WHEN WILL
APPLE BE HISTORY? See the news report about the best mousetrap
(Macintosh) does not always win in the marketplace.

Quote "Apple was the first to come out with an easy to use graphic
operating system. Click on an icon and voila, the machine responds.
Microsoft did develop its own graphic operating system, Windows, for
the IBM PC, but years late, and a few features short "UnQuote.

Quote "When something is satisfactory, you don't need to have
perfection, and so if something is good enough and serves your needs,
then people will buy it, and if people find others buying it, then
they will buy it, and soon more and more people buy it. And then soon
if somebody comes out with a better thing, like the Dvorak keyboard,
well, but this one seems good enough, why should I make an effort to
switch."UnQuote.

Apple gets coming with out stuff like the iMac, Newton, Quicktime,
Firewire, iPod, G5, 64 bit processor, etc. When is APPLE going to die?
The Macintosh guy says that Windows 95 GUI is like Mac 84? I think
they are just being kind. The look and feel of Windows XP is inferior
to that 1984 Macintosh or even the Lisa. DOS by itself is great, but
it was designed to do one thing at a time, DOS and Windows do not very
mix well.

Bill Gates had it right. " It's is the Operating System Stupid" like
in politics "It's the economy Stupid" But Gates put DOS of top of
Windows and that was big mistake. They just do not mix. He has to get
rid of DOS.

continued -http://www.jmusheneaux.com/


 
Jason Stevens
2004-04-23 04:57:23 UTC
Permalink
Hate to break it to you but dos is DEAD. gone fini. done. NT is a completly
un-dos like product. It has more in common with VMS & OS/2 than DOS... sigh
this feels like something that was posted like 10 years ago....

I mean if you want to rant thats fine, but get some of the techinical stuff
right too... I guess its also fair to point out that the new macs are more
like new NeXT Stations... Sorry dude, but your DOS/68k mac thing is a relic
of the 1990's....

Welcome to the age of PowerPC NeXT computers vs VMS|OS/2 2.0 ...
Post by j***@optonline.net
http://www.jmusheneaux.com/
[Windows] [Macintosh]
MICROSOFT WINDOWS- Despite what they tell us Microsoft Windows, it is
not a true Windows system, not as long as it has DOS buried within
Windows.
The problem with mixing Windows and DOS.
No doubt DOS is one the best and fastest operating system out there.
Not one bloated with a Windows system comes close to it (Apple or
Microsoft) .
BUT DOS WAS DESIGNED TO DO ONE THING A TIME. Windows and DOS do not
mix very well and never will.
Microsoft first put Windows on top of DOS. Then they starting burying
DOS with every Windows Version starting with Windows 95, naturally it
makes it look more the Macintosh. Microsoft has buried DOS (or a form
of DOS) further in the latest in version. Not much improvement in
Windows 95,98,ME or XP. Windows XP (Microsoft says DOS is gone ) still
has the feel that it had in Windows 3.1 (clunky). It is like using
your keyboard with gloves on. The manufactures make some good
machines, but one has to put up with the weird operating system (a
Windows System combined with DOS).
Microsoft keeps trying to copy the Mac. Windows will just not work
with DOS. Microsoft keeps putting code of top of code to hide the DOS.
But Microsoft needs to come up with a new Windows Operating System.
But we have another problem with the standard system, there is all
that software out there. It will cost money, the public pays the big
bucks. What good is a standard, if your existing programs will not run
on it? So we are stuck with DOS, as we are with the an inferior
keyboard which is not as efficient as the DOVARK. We are stuck with
the standard.
Windows was put together something like that original typewriter
keyboard below. On the original typewriter the keys did not work right
with fast typing and they arranged the keys to slow the typist down.
Evidently Microsoft had to put that something out there fast to keep
up with the competition (Macintosh and IBM OS), but Microsoft have to
contend with all that DOS software out there, and Microsoft jury
rigged Windows sitting on top of DOS. The standard was born. Microsoft
called it Windows. The correct term is DOS/Windows.
APPLE/MACINTOSH- Anyone who has used both machines (actually used
them) knows what machine has the more efficient operating system.
Business always drives the whole thing. And Wintel makes cheaper
machines than Macintosh. Plus in the business world- rarely is more
than one program needed. Majority of Newspapers and Graphics Artists
who need to do many things on a computer- use the Macintosh. Putting
out Newspapers and those into Graphics using a Windows machine is very
time consuming. I was in the Ship Design business and we only used one
program (Auto-Cad). That is typical in business. Why would one spend
money on a Macintosh when you could get a cheap Windows machine to use
for only only program? However Newspaper and Graphics are losing time
(man hours) on any Windows machine. Microsoft has a great programs in
Word, but if you are a Writer you need the Mac, just too time
consuming on a Windows machine. The handling of all those files needed
is time consuming on a Windows. The same thing for surfing the net. It
is time consuming on a Windows machine. Have you ever tried taking a
Screenshot on the Net on the Windows machine versus the Mac? Or
downloading a large number of files from a website, or loading files,
etc.etc.
When it comes to your home computer, any literate computer person
would buy a Macintosh. Of course we have very few people who are
computer literate (even in 2004) and they use the Windows at work and
they will buy a Windows machine for their home. The cycle continues.
These people who have been using the same program for 10 years or more
on the same machine at work are not very computer literate. It is a
simple as that.
Microsoft writes some very good programs but they have to run them on
a Windows system that is based on DOS. Gates put DOS on top of Windows
and now we have to live with it, because it is the standard. Much like
we have to work with a standard keyboard that is not as efficient as
Dvoark.
THE HISTORY-How the Computer Standard became the Standard (how I
understand it)
1. About 1973-XEROX (at their lab) had it all figured out and XEROX in
about 1983 gave it away for some stock in Apple. In exchange Apple was
allowed to visit XEROX's facility for a few weeks. Apple used the
XEROX ideas to develop the Apple Lisa and Macintosh.
2. About 1980-Apple had about 50% of the market. Microsoft gets the
rights to sell DOS to the giant IBM (Microsoft did not develop it).
Microsoft later got exclusive rights for DOS for about $100,000 (DOS
back then was called that "Quick and Dirty Operating System)". Of
course Microsoft left a legal loophole when they leased it to IBM,
Microsoft could lease DOS to others, and naturally DOS would became
the standard through IBM. No one at IBM expected that they would have
competitors in personal computers, evidently IBM lawyers left loophole
go. IBM came out with their first $3000 PC in 1981. Apple had been
selling PC's since 1976. But Apple was a computer company and they
still are. Gates knew the big money was in a standard operating
system. Business went to Microsoft (better suited the bottom line) and
Microsoft had computer illiteracy going for him and still does. Apple
blew it.
3. About 1983-Apple took the XEROX ideas and came up with the Lisa
(the first PC with a GUI and mouse and it was a flop) and the first
Macintosh in 1985. The ancestors of all computers today go back to the
Apple Lisa.
4. About 1984-Compaq using reverse engineering came up with the first
IBM clone thereby insuring the DOS standards survival competing with
IBM. That reverse engineering is another story. But is a legal. Of
course one party sues the other. Microsoft resolved its case with
Apple a few years ago when Apple was down, because of its Clones.
Apple was too a small market to go into the Clone business at that
late date. Microsoft brought some stock and continued to make software
for the Apple and Apple forgave Microsoft .
5.1985-Bill Gates had also visited XEROX and Microsoft worked to give
MS-DOS a Windows system. XEROX wanted stock from Apple, I did not know
what XEROX wanted from Microsoft? Microsoft basically used the XEROX &
Macintosh ideas and came up with a crude Windows system and did not
get rid of DOS (after all the DOS software was the standard), There
was too much software out there to get rid of DOS. Yet Microsoft
needed that Windows system to keep up with the competition. Gates was
selling DOS for $120 a copy in 1987. Apple and Digital Research going
back to 1979 were also involved in DOS. Digital Research was called DR
DOS.
Microsoft's crude system was something like the original typewriter
changing the keys to slow things down to fix the problem. Thus DOS and
Windows were joined to fix the problem. It made a bastard of DOS and a
crude form of Windows. Some say that Microsoft also did some reverse
engineering relative to the IBM OS. I did not know if this a fact?
Although IBM Windows was much better system than Microsoft Windows. By
1990 there were 10 million copies of Windows 3.0 sold. With Windows
3.1 over 3 million copies were sold in the first two months.
6. Of course there were lawsuits after lawsuits, XEROX sued Apple and
Apple sued Microsoft. Microsoft also left a contract loophole in legal
contracts with Apple. Microsoft out smarted both IBM and Apple. Giant
IBM and Apple were both amateurs compared to Gates.
7.1995/98/99- Microsoft keeps trying to copy to Apple, burying DOS
even further in each revision of the DOS based Windows. About Windows
ME Microsoft had even gotten rid of the term directory, they were now
called folders, like the Mac. DOS was never mentioned again as though
it did not exist,
8. 2001-Apple does an about face after System 9 and revises the System
that started it all. (Apple is now has about 5% of the market) Except
for Newspapers and Graphics business had no use for the Macintosh,
they stuck with DOS and DOS based windows. Business was easy, usually
that one program to run and they were not going to pay the high price
of the Mac. The Macintosh acted like a monopoly in its early years.
Apple did have the schools once but DOS/Windows is eroding that lead
also.
9. 2004-Windows mixed with DOS (or a form of DOS) is still the
standard today, Nothing has changed, Same with the Dvorak keyboard. We
still use that keyboard that was set up to slow down the typist. And
we still have DOS where it does not belong.
http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/history.html Go to this site. John
Shipman giving an account of DVORAK History "Quote
In about 1930, Dr. August Dvorak, undertook a study of efficiency in
the office. He almost immediately discovered the awful history of the
QWERTY keyboard.
Christopher Sholes, the inventor of the typewriter (ca. 1870),
invented the QWERTY layout by trial and error. In his early
typewriter, the type slugs hit the bottom of the platen and then fell
back down. Because Sholes didn't think of putting return springs on
the type slugs, he had trouble getting any speed out of the machine
because the type slugs would jam. So he moved the characters around in
a way that made the most common combinations hard to type, in order to
SLOW THE TYPIST DOWN so that jams would not occur.
In practical terms, then, Sholes anti-engineered the keyboard. Dvorak
found that the QWERTY arrangement is actually considerably worse than
a random arrangement! "Unquote"
Reminds one of Microsoft putting WINDOWS on top of DOS to keep the
standard. One might say that Microsoft anti-engineered Windows by
keeping DOS.
--- (Typing test in the 1930's) You could type (165 words a minute) on
the right on the Dvorak keyboard and on the left (131 words minute) on
the standard keyboard we all use today.
http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/procon.html
At this site "Dvorak Pros and Cons" above "Quote" If you must, you can
go back to QWERTY within a fairly short time (possibly days, probably
hours, maybe seconds), but you will curse every keystroke you have to
type in QWERTY, once you've tried Dvorak! "UnQuote"
One could say the same thing about the Windows System over the use of
Apple System. That is my experience. When I use the Windows machine it
is like using a keyboard with gloves.
CONCLUSION-It is said that 90% of the world buy Window Machines (that
so called standard) and that 90% cannot be wrong. I say that 90% of
the people are mistaken and it all goes back to how that computer
standard was created, and the computer literacy of the average
individual. Microsoft made their fortune on illiteracy? Business sets
the average person up using the Windows format and they stuck with for
life. Talk about these IBM clones (they were called clones at one
time) it appears Microsoft with the help of business, Clones the
computer population.
When something looks so obvious- one has to be a fool or literacy
comes in to play. Could 90% of the world be lacking computer
knowledge? It is possible? About 90% of the world thought there was no
harm in smoking at one time (even medical doctors "Remember-More
Doctors smoke Camels than other cigarette". When it comes to the
Dvorak keyboard probably 97% does not know that it even exists.
One last note- I was employed at a large engineering firm several
years ago, they had a particular form they had been using for 15 years
relative to material. Originally it was used for ordering material and
had extensive information to be filled in. About six months after this
form was initiated, the system was changed relative to the ordering of
the material, and the form now was just a tracking form, so numbers
were not duplicated, and the part number was all that was required on
the form. Yet for almost 15 years the designers had been blindly
filling out this form (with all that useless information) and no one
(no one) even knew why they were doing it, what the form was for, or
what its function was (true story). And engineers are supposed to be
one of the more intelligent members of our species. That 90% could be
wrong.
When you look hard at history of Microsoft you see no invocation. It
appears Microsoft goes in a market late and crowds out everyone else
out. It turns a good product to be sure (with exception DOS/Windows
OS, that is hopeless) but it comes in after someone has developed it.
Whether be Word Processing or a Net Browser or whatever?
Microsoft says that Windows 2000 or Windows XP are based on a totally
new operating called Windows NT. I used them both, including NT
(although more stable) they are still clunky (still like wearing
gloves using a keyboard). New operating system? Or more code on top of
code? Does DOS still live (or some form of it) or is DOS finally dead
in the Windows XP. Of course Microsoft told us they had gotten rid of
DOS in Windows ME?
An interesting quote by Bill Gates when he was writing software for
Apple -from a brochure about 1983. Also see the Bill Gates Video,
relative to the Mac, picking the standard about 1983.
Microsoft is now about 90% of the market, Apple is about 5%. WHEN WILL
APPLE BE HISTORY? See the news report about the best mousetrap
(Macintosh) does not always win in the marketplace.
Quote "Apple was the first to come out with an easy to use graphic
operating system. Click on an icon and voila, the machine responds.
Microsoft did develop its own graphic operating system, Windows, for
the IBM PC, but years late, and a few features short "UnQuote.
Quote "When something is satisfactory, you don't need to have
perfection, and so if something is good enough and serves your needs,
then people will buy it, and if people find others buying it, then
they will buy it, and soon more and more people buy it. And then soon
if somebody comes out with a better thing, like the Dvorak keyboard,
well, but this one seems good enough, why should I make an effort to
switch."UnQuote.
Apple gets coming with out stuff like the iMac, Newton, Quicktime,
Firewire, iPod, G5, 64 bit processor, etc. When is APPLE going to die?
The Macintosh guy says that Windows 95 GUI is like Mac 84? I think
they are just being kind. The look and feel of Windows XP is inferior
to that 1984 Macintosh or even the Lisa. DOS by itself is great, but
it was designed to do one thing at a time, DOS and Windows do not very
mix well.
Bill Gates had it right. " It's is the Operating System Stupid" like
in politics "It's the economy Stupid" But Gates put DOS of top of
Windows and that was big mistake. They just do not mix. He has to get
rid of DOS.
continued -http://www.jmusheneaux.com/
j***@optonline.net
2004-04-30 12:26:56 UTC
Permalink
Do you live on another planet????
XP has the many remnants: DOS-compatible filenames (many programs
still mysteriously turn file names like "program files" into
"progra~1"), special "magic" file names like "COM1", the use of "\" as
a filename separator (which causes endless problems in C-family
languages and on the web), and so on.

The big problem with XP, though, is that Microsoft wasn't willing to
make a clean break from their legacy Windows. There's still chunks of
16-bit code from Windows 3.1 in XP, and the new object-oriented shell
they were developing for NT4 was abandoned and replaced with a port of
the Windows 95/98 web-based shell (Windows Explorer / Internet
Explorer). The result of that is that despite massive improvements in
the underlying OS Windows is still wide open... it's basically running
the same user-level code as 9x, they just stuck a new layer underneath
it and refused to take advantage of it.

Windows XP apps are like Carbonised OS 9 apps. They abandoned their
equivalent of Cocoa back
Post by Jason Stevens
Hate to break it to you but dos is DEAD. gone fini. done. NT is a completly
un-dos like product. It has more in common with VMS & OS/2 than DOS... sigh
this feels like something that was posted like 10 years ago....
I mean if you want to rant thats fine, but get some of the techinical stuff
right too... I guess its also fair to point out that the new macs are more
like new NeXT Stations... Sorry dude, but your DOS/68k mac thing is a relic
of the 1990's....
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